Extruder PTFE guide. "Bowden Guide" Series X/P

Extruder PTFE guide. "Bowden Guide" Series X/P

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0.20 BBL PETg, 3 walls 4 top 3 bottom, 20% Gyroid infill
0.20 BBL PETg, 3 walls 4 top 3 bottom, 20% Gyroid infill
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0.20 BBL ABS, 3 walls, 4 top, 3 bottom. 25% gyro
0.20 BBL ABS, 3 walls, 4 top, 3 bottom. 25% gyro
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16 min
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0.20 PC 343 WTB 25%inf half speed
0.20 PC 343 WTB 25%inf half speed
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Extruder PTFE guide. "Bowden Guide" Series X/P

 

Yep, another one and for me, it's the last part of the puzzle.

 

📢 Issues Addressed:

#1 It is to stabilize and line up the PTFE at the extruder intake.

#2 No more filament load failure.

#3 Prevent the PTFE from kinking or having a too-small radius.

 

📢 What is distinctive about it;

No moving parts.

No adjustment.

No, none, sens. Like my other solution, it just works.

The filament can be pulled out without removing this part or need to cut it short.

More room to de-engage the PTFE tube. An excellent and welcome plus.

 

History (If you care);

For the last six months, I have tried other designs. I tried a douzaine of 90 degrees and other designs, but they all failed sooner or later or did not address the source of the issue. None are as good as I like them to be (zero failure). Once every five to ten reloading or printing starts, the filament stops, backs off 3 times, and gives an error. Since I have a solution for all the other sources of issues, this was the last point that needs a better fitting alignment.

 

The source of the issue;

The original piece had two flays. It has too much space for the PTFE. And why is it slotted/floating? The fitting should never touch that piece; I don't see any functionality in that adjustment. I removed it to make things more stable and leave space to disengage the fitting without tools.

 

Material selections;

As for the material to use, Polycarbonate (PC) and PET-CF are my #1 recommendations.

ABS could be a good alternative and print in 16 minutes.

I would not recommend using PETg or PLA. They will get soft and fail. It's hot up here, especially if you print above 250c and the chamber is 60 to 70c.

If you print PLA only or have a P1P, you may be good, but take a chance to have a failure. I highly want to insist and discourage you from using PLA there. Don't even think of printing it and installing it. Then rate my design as 1*

 

Installation:

Remove the original pieces by removing the two VERRY SPECIAL SCREWS. Don't lose them. You will not find a replacement, and BBL doesn't have a replacement.

Line up and screw-on in place this one. No adjustment or playing around.

Insert the PTFE until the fitting holds it well.

 

Printer setup;

I use BBL PC 0.20 layer 3 walls, 4 top 3 bottom 15% Grid infill and all speeds cut in half. It prints in 15 minutes, including the printer preparation. It is fast.

BBL ABS is quite the same. I changed the infill for 20% gyroid, but it's so tiny that it doesn't matter. It prints in 16 minutes and costs 2.5g of material.

BBL PETg is the same as ABS but slower.

 

Thanks, and keep having fun printing trouble-free.

PS: Look at my other solutions for the annoying little issues of the X/P series.

Don't forget to rate my work!!! Thanks.

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0.20 BBL ABS, 3 walls, 4 top, 3 bottom. 25% gyro
super helpful, fixed my PTFE issues
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That is fantastic. I did try a lot of stuff but this one work 100% of the time. Thanks for downloading it and giving feedback. I do appreciate it. I invite you to look at my other solutions for BBL's little corks.
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0.20 BBL ABS, 3 walls, 4 top, 3 bottom. 25% gyro
printed in Inland ABS
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the original has two additional indentions on either side of the middle bar for better indexing. also please note the original also has spaces for the screws to move up and down so that you can press down on it to release the ptfe tube that way instead of fishing your finger to press the top of the release tube. it does not affect functionality apart from that and frankly have yet to test your design. i love the idea however and will submit my results as well as pictures of the back of the original piece for reference. i do not know how to work with cad software or i would make a remix to match the original and retain the functionality of releasing the ptfe tube. thank you
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Hi Mr Bean Jr. I see your point, but it's dysfunctional. Since day one, I haven't been able to get it to work 100% of the time. The two "missing pins" lock the position and would not release the fitting (on my printer). That's why, for me, it was better to remove the slot and stabilize all the things at the end; I'm printing with it for 3 weeks and have zero pullbacks. It's telling me I solved the issue. Now the way I design it I can release the fitting with my finger no tools require.
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Replying to @luckyluc.64 :
yes it is an excellent design! i did a stress test to the printer and it prints in extremely high quality now. very well done
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Replying to @mrbeanjr45 :
It is simple but does have a positive impact on the reliability and stability of the matching. I'm happy you like it, and thanks for the good comments.
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Regarding the screws, could you describe what makes them special? Are they not a standard thread depth / diameter / head / something else? Just not documented? I've got access to a lot of different screw sizes and would be happy to help find the right one if that's all it is.
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Hey @fartbaby69, The screws are Socket large head, narrow profile, hex drive with a shoulder and a step, the threaded part is BT2 x 6 for plastic. You will not be able to find that at a screw place. It very unick to have that configuration on a plastic screw thread. Even Bambu Lab doesn't have it and I can't find any on the American market. I find some BT2 x 6mm SHCS but the shoulder is needed to make sure they won't go too deep and hit the Carbon guide rod. Here you go
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Replying to @luckyluc.64 :
Thank you! I took a picture of one of the screws if it helps others identify them in the future.
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Since day one i have problem with the original one and after a couple of times i fix the little screw ruined and cant find anywhere a couple identical so now i cant install no one, you have find some solution?
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Ya those screw are very special. If the holes are not strip and use my guide you can find screw BT2 x 8mm https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YBMRAH4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 be careful they don't go too deep and hit the carbon rod in the back. Don't overtight them. If the hole are strip it's a all other story. If they are strip, reach me in the chat up here and we can figure a way to fix-it.
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This is exactly what I needed. Thank you so very much!
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Thanks Mary for the boost! Thanks for downloading it and giving feedback.  I do appreciate it. I invite you to look at my other solutions for BBL's little corks.
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It was driving me insane getting an error every time the filament changed, I printed this out and popped it in and boom, no more errors, I can print with multiple filament changes now with out any worries! Thank you for designing this, easy to print, easy to install and works perfectly!
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Thanks for the review and the boost. I did try allot of ramp and all kind of thing but none are 100% hick-up free. That's what I do, fix issues. Also the Hub guide help a lot. Thanks again and keep having fun trouble free ;-)
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Would you recommend printing in ASA instead of ABS?
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Hey thanks for the boost. ASA is a glorify ABS. The agent added increase the working temperature a little and improve the UV resistance. To me the added price doesn't worth it. But it's certainly a good material. Since I print a lot of PC lately the ABS did start deforming due to the high temperature in the head. I just got some PET-CF and will be definitively better. Thanks again. Look at my other PTFE alignment solution for the X and P printers. Keep having fun...
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0.20 PC 343 WTB 25%inf half speed
Extruder filament clogged issues went away right after install. Was very easy to put on.
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This normally solve the loading of the filament issue. If the PTFE is kink or over bend it can slow down the flow and cause extrusion issues like the consistency of the flow and could result in clog. I'm happy it solve one of your issue. Thanks for downloading it and giving feedback.  I do appreciate it. I invite you to look at my other solutions for BBL's little corks.
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0.20 BBL ABS, 3 walls, 4 top, 3 bottom. 25% gyro
Printed absolutely perfectly in BL ABS
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Thanks for downloading it and giving feedback.  I do not appreciate it. I invite you to look at my other solutions for BBL's little corks.
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